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Derby City leads on breast imaging

Tags: Breast screening   CfH   Digital imaging   PACS   UKRC  

10 Jun 2010

Only one of England’s 82 local breast screening programmes is fully integrated with its local PACS - but other sites are making progress, UKRC 2010 heard this week.

Derby City Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust was the first breast screening programme in England to be fully interfaced with its local PACS; a non-local service provider GE system. It went live late in 2009.

Sarah Sellers, assistant director of the NHS Cancer Screening Programme, told the conference that Kingsmill Hospital, Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, working with LSP Accenture, had been signed off by NHS Connecting for Health.

She told E-Health Insider that the trust had integrated one digital modality into its Agfa PACS.

The CSC solution is ‘imminent’ in Truro and should be live by mid-June with Plymouth to follow on, she added. There is nothing yet from BT and Sectra working in London.

Most breast screening programmes (43 out of 82) have introduced some digital radiography, with nine now converted fully to DR. Sellars said the aim was that each service should have at least one digital modality by the end of 2010.

Sellers paid tribute to the staff who had helped to get the sites live, especially PACS leads who had been very helpful with local communication.

Progress towards integration with PACS presents challenges. Sellers commented: “When we started we were a bit naive in thinking that general radiology would be using the NHS Number!”

In many cases, hospital numbers were in use, and the programme had to work around that.

Other challenges include the cost of local short term storage and the technical issues that arise when screening programmes work across multiple trusts with multiple PACS systems.

Concerns were also raised in some trusts about the performance of networks when breast images were loaded into the PACS.

Future challenges include the management of the transition when staff will have to view prior film images alongside digital images. Services are looking at the options of scanning previous images into their PACS; making film packets available or using roller viewers alongside the digital screen.

Storage is a long term challenge too, Sellers pointed out, with each screen requiring 50Mb of storage and the national screening programme in England expected to generate 100 terabytes a year.

In the wider context, the technology changes are supporting a service facing a steep increase in demand.

Set up in 1988 to screen women aged 50-64 years, the programme is likely to expand to cover more women at both ends of that age scale.

In addition to this pressure, the population within the age ranges covered by the programme is growing as the ‘baby boomers’ born in the 1950s and early 1960s become eligible for screening.

The screening programme is also set to take on the care of women at high risk of breast cancer who may require earlier or more frequent screening. All in all, Sellers said the expansion in breast screening would generate an increase in workload of about 30%.

Linda Davidson

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1

The strange case of the missing body parts

10 Jun 10 09:46

Are there any other portions of the human anatomy which were overlooked in CfH's PACS offerings?

FAIL!


2

That's a conservative estimate

njames@gotadsl.co.uk

11 Jun 10 00:05

After 9 months live at our programme centre and streaming all images over network, that does include the mobile units I can add a teensy comment. Each screening episode 50mb, errrrrr depends on the FFDM system in use. Images are from 12 to 26MB each depending on the system in use, a typical study compprises four images. You can do the simple maths on this. Of course you then need consider the the raw image files, if you keep them double the numbers. That equals a little over 1.3TB here (note no raw files retained) in 6 months AND that's without adding the extra work load from age extension. With raw files that would have been 2.6 so about 5TB a year.

Even at 50 a study it's still a lot of data, anyone want to remind me how much the cluster catalogue list price is per TB??


3

Approximately

11 Jun 10 16:15

£12,000 but that does come with a nice LSP badge on it


4

LOL I knew that ;)

14 Jun 10 00:30

Areas not covered, Medical Photgraphy wasn't in scope as far as I know with Fujitsu so there's a whole spectrum of part missing there!! Our local Medical Photography team are looking at a third party solution partly due to this but mainly as they are insisting on a fairly inclusive and extensive RBAS to their images. They did ask if we could do this in any form ...... or when .....

LOL I did know the price per TB but I am pleased that someone has posted it. Luckily as we didn't buy an LSP solution we won't be sanctioning anything like the £120,000 + 10% PA when we double our storage to 20TB at the end of year 2 to mid year 3. In terms of data committed to store we'll have overtaken the Acute Trust (2 GE Centricity Instances) within 4 years which is rather scary. The volume of data generated is rather awesome :) As it was our budget for PACS wouldn't have been enough to have purchased a budget diagnostic DR room with dual receptors!!


5

Alternatives are available

16 Jun 10 11:21

Why would breast screening services want to commit to this solution when the current LSP contract expires in June 2013? There are many independent alternatives approved for use in the breast screening service, all of which can offer better flexibility and access directly to the supplier.

 

Absolutely crazy!!!

 


6

re: Alternatives are available

16 Jun 10 12:30

>>Why would breast screening services want to commit to this solution when the current LSP contract expires in June 2013?<<

A lady with an abnormality found at screening will subsequently have an appointment with a breast surgeon at St Somewhere's (which has an LSP PACS system).

Her screening mammogram was taken either at St Elsewhere's or a mobile screening unit with either wet films or their own PACS.

Will those X-rays be reliably available for viewing at that crucial surgeon's appointment? Or will she be forced to have an anxiety inducing "repeat" mammogram wasting time and money?

I accept that Mammography screening services may not geographically correspond with a single LSP PACS catchment area. And what CfH PACS 'success' stories fail to mention, is that LSP PACS images are almost as siloed to NHS institutions as the old film libraries were.

As poster one said - FAIL :-(


7

Will the images follow the patient?

njames@gotadsl.co.uk

09 Jul 10 00:02

For those who don't know I am involved with a screening programme site that's been live (non cluster provider) for 8 months using FFDM for ALL imaging with no fetching and carrying (we have a great network infrastructure available). LOL Just banging our own drum there as we didn't see any real publicity about our go-live, virtually none is more accurate. I've also been involved with PACS for over 12 years, but never got a t-shirt ... slightly disapointing on both counts!!

The question was essentially 'will the images follow the patient?'

Well if they're follow up is in our local acute Trust no problem, the screening, assessment images, ultrasounds and biopsy imaging will on the Acute side PACS for any MDT or follow-up appointments. I am very keen that a full and accurate patient imaging record is available. IF, and this might be a teensy flaw in the process, we are asked for images then we can push them to other Trusts that use IEP or BBrad. Typically using IEP they'll be available to be pulled down within minutes (well when it's working). BBrad might be longer but not by too much. Of course move outside of the NHS or a site not using either then we're down to a CD but a request gets filled usually the same day. Personally I think image transfer should be a really simple process and one that DICOM was designed to handle (VPN and AES encryption are native components) between trusted parties, it's just been turned into a total mess.

I'd say if the images are needed then I'll get them to where they are needed when they are needed. We are after all in the business of patient care, personally I care if we fail, or seem to, or might be seen to be letting our clients, patients or users down... Not going to happen while I or anyone on my support team have anything to do with it.

As far as I'm concerned post #6 nice try but sorry, for here at least, I'll give the post a fail.

And yes, 2013 has got quite a few Trusts considering what their position is and could be, anyone who maintains business continuity plans and considers them of any importantance ought to be doing the same. It's only sensible.

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