Hereford deploys Lorenzo R1

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22 Sep 2009

Hereford Hospital

Hereford Hospitals NHS Trust has gone-live with Lorenzo in its rheumatology department.

The trust went live at the start of September with Release 1 of the iSoft electronic patient record in a CSC implementation as part of the National Programme for IT in the NHS.

Andrew Spence, CSC’s director of healthcare strategy, told E-Health Insider: “We’ve put Hereford live on the first release of Lorenzo.

"We agreed with the trust that Lorenzo was the right solution for their business needs.”

In April, director general of informatics Christine Connelly set the programme's remaining local service providers deadlines to make significant progress with the ‘strategic’ systems they are due to deliver to the NHS.

CSC must get Lorenzo Release 1.9 into a care setting by November and working smoothly in an acute setting by March. Spence said that although iSoft and CSC were focused on the deadlines, they were also working with earlier releases of Lorenzo.

“We work to the needs of the NHS, and although the public deadlines are important so are local issues," he said. "Hereford had a need and we worked with them to sort it out. It’s quietly gone live without anyone noticing.”

In his interview at CSC’s offices in St Mary Axe, London, Spence said the future of both companies was tied to Lorenzo. “iSoft’s future, as much as CSC’s in healthcare, is dependent on the development of Lorenzo,” he said.

However, Spence declined to comment on what would happen if the deadlines set by Connelly were not met and whether CSC was contractually bound by the cut-off dates.

He said: “CSC doesn’t really talk about the nature of its contracts and what happens if we do or don’t meet the deadline.

“We are confident that both the November and March deadlines will be met. We’re working with NHS Connecting for Health and a number of trusts for the subsequent roll-out, so we haven’t got all of our efforts focused on November and March.

“We’re planning for a successful long-term roll-out of Releases 1 and all the subsequent releases.”

ISoft declined to comment on how dependent it is on the National Programme contract. Hereford Hospitals NHS Trust was also unable to provide more information on its deployment.

Link: CSC

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Readers Comments

Its all coming up smelling of roses

22 Sep 09 09:13

Lorenzo going live (albeit in small deployments), new Cerner and upgrade deployments on the way, RiO problems solved and SystmOne going full steam ahead.

Whats happening? That’s what I want to know!

Interesting Times

22 Sep 09 09:59

My goodness. CSC says that its future in healthcare is dependent on Lorenzo. IMHO I wouldn’t bet a pet hamster on Lorenzo delivering a working PAS in an acute next year, never mind by March. So will it really be farewell CSC then?

Interesting times.

Beware the ides of November (not)

22 Sep 09 10:59

(Sigh) as yet another "do or die" CfH deadline approaches we are already being softened up for the let down.

If iSoft could implement a Solitaire module by November and deploy it to the staff coffee room at Sleepyville Primary Care Trust's World Class Commissioning Centre that would be more than enough.

Whatever is out there on the day will be hailed as a massive success and vindication of the entire NPfIT project.

Wake me up when they've replaced a start of the art 1980's PAS, let alone emulated the EPR level 4 secondary systems that started to gain a foothold in the NHS in the 90's.

Building my house

22 Sep 09 12:00

About 6 years ago I bought some land and employed a contractor to build my house, there were some delays getting the design right, but that was sorted. The contractor decided to have the bricks made overseas and shipped back for my approval, unfortunately I had to approve each brick was the right shape and size for my home... we have had four bricks pass the test so far only 24996 to go.

In the mean time the contractor has laid the accepted bricks and created a very small room.... this was deemed to be a great success by the contractor and the "house" has been entered into a national competition to show how well the contractor has done...

The contractor is now demanding the money for the construction of the house....

The questions are is this acceptable and should I pay?

I will huff and I puff

22 Sep 09 15:08

You failed to mention befire the 6 years, you hired a possee of lawyers to create a contract that would stop you having to pay for anything unless it had a roof on it, a basement, garden, sprinkling system, patio, central heating, solarium, golf course, electronic gates, guard dogs, kennel...

So the answer must be No, if you only have a room with no roof, front door or all of above.

You probably are regretting the £300m you spent on lawyers for your £200k investment and are wondering why you did not buy something that already was in existence instead of a pipedream. Still the lawyers made money whatever happens, it is just that you remain out in the cold probably for a few more years yet.

Pay you tight wad!!!

22 Sep 09 16:42

Yes you should pay after all the gates have turned up (I know there is no wall but it will come soon) and they are going to put an old caravan in the garden to act as a kitchen and a shed for a lounge not to mention the blow up paddling pool.

So stop messing about and pay them for the stirling work they have done.

And next week you have two patches coming for the roof that isn’t there!!

Some people are never satisified.

gone live have they ?

23 Sep 09 11:25

"Hereford deploys Lorenzo R1"

Surely this should say "Hereford go live with one tiny piece of the software".

The spin being put on this project is getting to be a bit of a joke now. Taking a small part of a piece of software does NOT mean that the whole of R1 has gone live !

Support for release 1 has all but dried up now becasue CSC's focus is on getting 1.9 out in order for them to reach the November/March targets.

Release 1 itself is still plagued with bugs and problems that quite frankly when I was doing my programming at university I would have been pulled over the coals for.

Trusts are being pushed to replace already working systems with this monstrosity of a system and for one i'm disgusted.

Quality

23 Sep 09 17:22

If there is such a quality problem, although I accept this product doesn't do much yet, then is anyone talking about patient safety risk? Because they should be, that is unless of course the system isn't really being used in anger ...... Oh!